The Radio Society Of Great Britain Limited
RSGB Licences Limited

Now humorously know as the [RSGB] Royal Society of Good Buddies Ltd.

We are not totally against the idea of a representative body, but when this company derives its entire income from within the hobby (apart from the income, if any, from publishing Ham Radio Today, if indeed it still exists), you can't help but think that "arm's length transactions" are likely to be few and far between. Add to this the fact that registered with the same office address is another company called RSGB Licences Ltd. It seems that these vultures have designs on even more money from within the hobby!

RSGB Limited describe themselves as "Magazine Publishers".

The UK's Information Commissioner has this morning issued the outcome of a complaint made against the Radio Society of Great Britain (RSGB) concerning data protection issues.

In its three-page report, it concludes that 'on the basis of all the information available, we have decided that it is unlikely that the Society have complied with the requirements of the Data Protection Act.'

The conclusion goes on to say "This is because on this occasion, it appears the Society were unable to satisfy a condition in schedule 2 of the DPA for disclosing [the complainant's] personal data to third parties and, furthermore, doing so was unlikely to be within [the complainant's] reasonable expectations."

The incident arose when correspondence sent to the RSGB was allegedly sent by e-mail to eleven members of an external organisation.

The RSGB has been asked to consider the information provided to it by the Information Commissioner's Office and steps have been taken by the RSGB to prevent the situation from happening again.

News 31.03.2011:-

RSGB General Manager


The Board of the RSGB has today released the following announcement:

Peter Kirby, RSGB General Manager, has left the Society’s employment after the discovery of financial irregularities on his part.

For the time being, RSGB Director Don Beattie, G3BJ, will act as General Manager.

(no reports of any police action in this regard!)

Radio Society Of Great Britain Limited

Details:-

Name & Registered Office :
RADIO SOCIETY OF GREAT BRITAIN Limited
LAMBDA HOUSE
CRANBORNE ROAD
POTTERS BAR
HERTFORDSHIRE EN6 3JE
Status :Active
Company No. :00216431
Date of Incorporation : 25/09/1926

Country of Origin : United Kingdom




Nature Of Business (SIC(92)):
9272 - other recreational activities
5156 - wholesale other intermediate goods
9305 - other service activities
2211 - publishing of books

Accounting Reference Date : 30/06

RSGB Limited may have started out as a useful club, but now they only seem interested in making money from the hobby. Until 1999 they were committed to holding it back in the days of Morse keys and DS19/87B radio valves! When you consider their vast turn-over, it seems that their cosy relationship with The Radiocommunications Agency is not such an “arms length” arrangement as it should be. Registered limited company number 00216431.

The R.S.G.B. Ltd. undertake a significant part of licensing administration work for Ofcom, especially in the field of Packet Radio and the approval and granting of licences for repeaters. Is it right to let a company that generates it’s entire income from within the hobby, be so closely involved with the granting of licences for specialist tasks? We think not. How many repeater keepers and packet radio bulletin board system operators have received approval from R.S.G.B.Ltd. while not being “members”? We have not been able to locate a single one!

With the declining numbers of radio amateurs now dropping well below the 60,000 mark, RSGB Ltd. have decided that new measures need to be adopted to secure more income, and more subscribers to their magazines. They have successfully lobbied the RA for a reduction in the Morse requirement for HF use, to a mere 5 Words Per Minute, with the abolition of the Morse requirement entirely by 2002. Furthermore, it seems that the company is actively trying to ensnare current CB operators as well.

It has always seemed rather strange that the representative body for a hobby that is so closely associated with technology, should have actively campaigned for it to be held back in the dark ages. Sadly, it seems that loss of income has been the only deciding factor in their dramatic change of policy.

Being a “member” of R.S.G.B.Ltd. has always seemed to us as a little ambiguous, basically, you subscribe to a magazine rather than pay fees to a club, but this passes over the heads of most people.

The R.S.G.B. Ltd. also enjoys other dubious privileges, the greatest of these being the ability to broadcast propaganda on our allocated amateur frequencies and to promote their money making ventures such as the sale of books, and for events for which they charge admission fees.
It may well have been the case in years gone by that the company was a non-profit organisation, but with the purchase of Ham Radio Today (A British amateur magazine - about amateur radio) we suggest that is no longer the case. With their close ties with the licensing authority, we feel that their advertising and propaganda broadcasts on amateur radio are now totally inappropriate. The constant use of the code QTHR in their "news/advertising/propaganda" broadcasts on amateur frequencies, is merely another way of suggesting that you buy their call-sign listing book.

For reasons best known to the UK Government, The Secretary of State for Trade & Industry (or whatever he is called this week), allows R.S.G.B. Ltd. to drop the usual legal requirement for the term Limited to appear after the company name on all company literature.

Normally a legal requirement for Limited companies, these special terms only seem to perpetuate the myth that the company is some sort of club or official body.

RSGB Licences Limited, an interesting new company that has yet to trade, we wonder where the income will be derived from - any guesses?

Details:-

Name & Registered Office :
RSGB LICENCES LIMITED
LAMBDA HOUSE,
CRANBORNE ROAD,
POTTERS BAR,
HERTFORDSHIRE. EN6 3JE
Status :Active
Company No. :02603325
Date of Incorporation : 19/04/1991

Country of Origin : United Kingdom



Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature Of Business (SIC(92)):
9272 - other recreational activities
9305 - other service activities
7499 - non-trading company


Accounting Reference Date : 30/06


Last Members List : 11/12/2000

Previous Names
Date of Change : Previous Name :
02/10/1991 BAYLAKE LIMITED

Unlike the RSGB Ltd., we at the LPWS do NOT want your money!

Deformation of Character

Deformation of Character

Following the conviction of George, G1MTT, The Radio Society of Great Britain Limited gleefully broadcasted their views on the subject. Unfortunately they didn't bother to find out what he was charged with, which repeater was used, which Court the case was conducted in, the length of the case, let alone what he was found guilty of!

Subsequently all their news readers transmitted a completely untrue account of the charges and the alleged offences, and these falsehoods were also carried by, and onwardly transmitted by dozens of packet radio nodes and bulletin boards in the form of the GB2RS news.

RSGB Ltd. were contacted, and initially refused to withdraw their false allegations. George got his solicitor involved and threatened the RSGB Ltd. with actions for deformation of character for each and every news reader as well as each and every BBS and node in the UK, that had distributed or forwarded, the original bulletin.
Within days a cash offer was received and after a little negotiation The R.S.G.B. Ltd. upped their original offer and agreed to pay George an "out of court settlement" which included his legal costs plus damages!
A result and an expensive lesson for the company!

The Defamatory Article

The apology

In our bulletin for Sunday the 4th of July, we ran a story concerning George Hitchcock (sic), G1MTT, who had been fined for a number of radio-related offences. We stated incorrectly that the offences were related to the transmission of abuse and obscenities. We unreservedly apologise to Mr. Hitchcock for this and regret any embarrassment this may have caused him. Mr. Hitchcock has asked us to point out that the charges were as follows: eight counts of using apparatus for wireless telegraphy without a licence and two counts of unlawful broadcasting. Four charges were withdrawn, one was returned not guilty by direction of the Judge and of the five counts on which he was found guilty, four charges related to the playing of music and one related to not using a callsign at the commencement of transmission. In all cases it was alleged the same frequency was used, namely 145.025MHz, the input frequency of the Malvern Hills repeater GB3MH. No charges were brought concerning abuse or obscenities or the use of any other repeater or frequency. The Society has agreed to pay Mr. Hitchcock his legal costs and damages.

Also to be seen HERE

At least the "members" of The Radio Society Of Great Britain Limited were able to track down where, at least some, of their money went in this financial year!
Usually the company accounts list, after "Operating Costs" another item "Other Operating Costs" that is usually equal to, or within a few pence of, the yearly profit.

2011 and they are still up to their old tricks, employees being "dismissed" for involvement in financial irregularities!